Stamford Hall (Altrincham)

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We appeared at Samford Hall with Long John Baldry and a very young Rod Stewart, The Hollies, The Rolling Stones, Gerry and The Pacemakers, Big Three etc.

Keith Leigh - The Semi-Tones

"I was born in 1951, and went as a teenager to see groups at the Stamford Hall from 1964 to 67. Frank Bell was the Manager/bouncer, a giant of a man who evidently, once had a shot at the British heavyweight title, I always respected Frank as did most of the members of Y.O.R. club as it was called and there was rarely any trouble.

Anyway back to the beat: I got Long John Baldry and Julie Driscoll,s Autographs as they went into "The Barrington" pub just down from the Stamford. (i just missed Rod). They were of course with Brian Auger and Steampacket. The Wildest night I can recall was the Walker Brothers when it cost Eleven bob to get in,(usually 6/-) for Scott and Co. to almost perform only three songs due to girls invading the stage, the show being stopped - no refund!

I had many other memorable nights, with the Hollies, The Fantastic BIRDS with Ron Wood! The Small Faces just 12 weeks into their success, The Kirkbys, the Yaks, Mark Leeman 5, Mojos, Deltones (wasn't Ian Anderson later of YES the singer). I was there mainly to see how the guitarists played and although my school beat group "THE GOLDEN RULES" with my Mazeltoff and Rosetti 3, never got past the youth club stage, those formative years are still the dearest memories I have.

The other Golden Rules were: John Walters (Broadway Drums), David Owen (Vox Bass through an old radiogram). Tony Stewart (hofner Club 50 acoustic) and dear Terry Hutchinson who died in 1971 (reslo vocals plugged into the other socket of my Mazeltoff). Our repetoire was Kinks, Stones, Jimmy Reed, Drifters etc. My personal favourite was the Mighty FORTUNE TELLER played like the Merseybeats who also graced the Stamford Hall.

I'm currently forming a BEAT GROUP in Gloucestershire where I've now lived for over 20 years. We've had 2 practices with my 17-year-old son CAZ on bass, me on a recently acquired Rosetti 3 by Egmond and Mazeltoff Amp. and another Martin on drums ... WATCH THIS SPACE... "

Martin Sievey

Well done Frank Bell, he was the games teaeher at my old school who gave us our first taste of live music and what a taste,   and then they pulled it down and gave us a taste of things to come blandness. Rock on Martin see you at the reunion.

Kit Ward 4/11/10

Happy Days back in the 60's Tuesdays and Saturdays, a few other acts I recall thanks to Frank Bell: The Kinks, Van Morrison (Them), The Big Three, some mob from London who had a big hit with "7 Golden Daffodils" There were a lot of faces who turned up there, just about everyone at the time except The Beatles.

I met my first wife there, asked her to dance to On Broadway sung by a local band Ivan's Meads. She said yes, it must have been dark! Magic days indeed!

Jim Armour 31/7/11

Yes, I remember the Stamford Hall in the early sixties... the Stones, the Hollies, Long John Baldry (with a very young Rod Stewart - even before he was Rod the Mod!) and a German group the Rattles. Used to go Tuesday and Saturday nights. As the song said..."those were the days" - used to go with my friends Pam and Sue (we were Alty Grammar Girls).

Fran Morris 21/1/12

Had some wonderful times at "The Stamford Hall" the saturday night dances with Frank Bell (a teacher at Welly Road) on the door, saw so many groups, inc, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Long John Baldry, Rod Stewart, The Who, Freddie and the Dreamers, Karl Denver etc, etc,.

Met my wife there at an Altrincham Hospital dance, she was a Staff Nurse and I was an Ambulance driver. Does anyone remember the ACES who ran the Wresting on a tuesday night?? Wonderful times.

Bryn Mallion 22/10/12

I played there in the sixties in a group called "The Friends". We were much influenced by the Beach Boys but our repertoire included all the popular stuff of the day. Eric was on lead guitar, Gerry was on rhythm, Ray was on drums, Chris was on bass and I provided the vocals. Dave our Manager got us the gig. We were Alty/Sale based but played all over.

Sadly we have lost touch with each other.

Does anyone else have any further information about the group and other support groups that played here?

My other memory is of my wedding reception which was held there, mid 70's, in the posh bit - upstairs.

Mike Daine   25/1/13   

Played Stamford Hall with Vince Reno and The Sabres (around 1963).  I think we were booked through Oliver Batson Enterprises.

Frank Bell met us at the door, and a more humble & friendly guy you couldn't wish to meet. He picked my VoxAC 30 up and carried it to the stage for me.It could have been a matchbox.He gave me his boxing business card and he was the only man to knock out Tommy Farr. Frank was a real gentleman.

The Hollies had played the Hall a short while before us and "We Hollies" was deeply engraved in the big wooden doors.Dont know if thats still there.Only played Stamford Hall a few times but memorable gigs for sure.

Ken Hobin (rhythm guitar) 21/2/13

I frequented Stamford Hall when Frank Bell was there too.  What a shame they pulled it down.  I was there when Long John Baldry & the Hoochie Coochie Men played (when he introduced Rod Stewart).  I got Long Johns and Rod's autograph that night.  I also remember seeing The Rattles, The Who, The Drifters, The Hollies (regular visitors to Stamford Hall).  I left the school exam room early to see the Rattles.  Just made it in time!  I was at the front of the audience next to the stage when the Drifters sang "save the last dance for me" and pointed down to me & my friends.  Unfortunately they wouldn't let us ask them for autographs that night.  My friends (Lynne, Shirley & Liz) used to go to the Stamford Hall every week.  It was SO innocent then though. 

We also used to go to the Manchester clubs e.g. Oasis, Top of the Town, Rowntrees Spring Gardens & Rowntrees Sound, Time & Place, Yungfrau, Twisted Wheel & Mr Smiths Drokiweeny.  In fact I've still got 2 tickets from the Oasis in my autograph book.

Yvonne Tomlinson (nee Boardman) 29/3/13

Saw Status Quo at Stamford Hall - I must have been about 15 or 16!

Jo Power 29/3/13

Well, well ... fancy seeing a sort of blog about the Stamford Hall. The good old days. Amazing that such a high proportion of the groups who performed there went on to achieve so much fame [and presumably fortune]. Alas those times will never be repeated, nor will the music and atmosphere ever be matched again. I doubt that Frank Bell would have booked Justin Bieber !!

I remember being offered a lift by the Rolling Stones over to the Twisted Wheel.

Mike Wootton 4/4/13

Rolling Stones at the Stamford Hall:  I was having a chat in a pub in Altrincham, last week-end, with my older brother Frank and a few pals when the Stones gig at the Stamford Hall in Altrincham 1963 came up in the conversation. My brother Frank was a young lad at the time but was there, watching the Stones, from the stage wings. Our Dad (also called Frank) was an ex professional boxer, known professionally as Frank Johnson (British & Empire Lightweight Champion 1952-55) and he used to work as a doorman at the Stamford Hall and the Princess club in Chorlton. My two brothers and I were young kids back then and sometimes Dad would take one of us with him to watch the bands who played there. Whoever Dad took on any particular night would stand in the side wings and watch. Frank, my brother was telling us about the Stones gig but he couldn't remember the exact date.

An older chap with us in the pub "shiny shoes Tom" said he remembered that day because he met Mick Jagger and Bill Wyman down the road in the Malt Shovels. Earlier in the day he was having a quiet pint when Mick and Bill walked in the side door and each ordered a pint at the short bar next to him. He knew their faces as they were at that time, just breaking through in popularity after their first single "Come On".  Tom had a chat with them and they said they were in town for a gig later that evening. Apparently the other band members were in the Barrington hotel further down the road in Altrincham. Anyway, my brother Frank said it was a fantastic gig on the night despite the fact that you could hardly hear anything above the girls screaming! One of the chaps looked it up later on the internet and it turned out to be 26th. November 1963 - my 11th. birthday!  I suppose I was the unlucky one as Dad took me a few weeks later to the Stamford Hall and I got to see the Merseybeats (no dis-respect to them though but I am a "big" Stones fan).

As I said earlier, Dad was known professionally as Frank Johnson - if anyone's interested just Google "Frank Johnson boxer" - they used to call him "the master craftsman" and "the golden boy".

In another funny story of that era, Dad actually turned down the Beatles, a bit like Decca, the record label...
I will quote below from part of a recent e-mail that I received, from an old former work mate of Dad's, Charlie Fitzgerald, who now lives in Australia;

"G/day Steve,  It seems a long time since I last wrote to you from Australia but as time passes so do our memories but this morning I put on my computer to read my internet edition of the Manchester Evening News and I saw an article about the Beatles. It was a story about them appearing at the old Oasis Club and how it was their first "big" show in Manchester in 1962. It brought back memories when I read that the Beatles oddest venue was at the Urmston show in the August Bank Holiday 1963, they appeared in a giant marquee.  Now, I don't know if anybody told you but in the rock n roll era your dad would not have known the difference between Elvis Presley and Cliff Richards, in fact I think the only show business star he knew was Marlene Dietrich. He was offered the contract of providing the security (bouncers) for the show. When we turned up for work at the Princess club he offered us the job at the sum of three quid for the night. We all turned it down, mainly because we had seen them on Granada's show "People & Places" a few weeks before. In your dad's case, he hadn't got a clue who the Beatles were and he didn't want us to do it as it was in a tent. This little story may not mean much to other people but to me it brought back a memory. In Adelaide the Beatles are legends because they appeared here in 1964 and were greeted by a bigger crowd than the FA Cup final. Not many people believe me when I tell them that we turned them down because we thought that they were a bit crappy and our boss didn't want us working in a tent!  Charlie Fitzgerald"

So no wonder we all turned out to be Rolling Stones fans in our family... ha!

Steve Williamson, Timperley, Altrincham 21/11/13

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David Blades
7 years ago
I was born in 1955. Early 70s living in Manchester I visited Stamford Hall a lot but never to see any Bands - met some great friends there . Watched most of my live bands at the Village\Hardrock in Stretford
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Karen Cole
7 years ago
Nee Armstrong.

I used to go to the Northern Soul nights at the Stamford Hall, Altrincham and occasionally frequented the Quadrant pub before heading for the Hardrock,Stretford where Andy Peebles would spin the discs. ! Happy times
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Big Blue
7 years ago
Just read Ronnie Wood's diary from 1965. His band at the time, the Birds were always playing there because the singer went out with Bert Smallshaw's daughter. They and all the bands used to stay at the Barrington even when they were playing the Oasis in Manchester. Must of been some rock n roll nights in those days.
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Eileen Hardman
7 years ago
I went to Stamford hall every week and was a member of Frank Bell's committee. In 1963 we pestered Frank into bussing us all over to Winsford where the Beatles were playing. I sneaked back stage and got their autographs on the inside of a Park Drive cig packet ! Best of all I got a kiss from John who was always my favourite. Best days of my life were in the Stamford Hall era when I was sweet 16.
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Clive Churchward
7 years ago
I was president of the North Trafford College students union and we organised our Christmas Part at Stamford Hall about 1970 - can remember the Rock Band we book but but when the fight started the bouncers left
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Colin Holmes
7 years ago
What about Screaming Lord Sutch, The Four Pennies,The Searchers. And all the Mersey bands.

Bought Graham Nashand & Alan Clark a beer in the Malt Shovels when only 17. A good local band Lorain Grey and the Shaperones, overshadowed by Lulu's Shout. Happy Days..
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Alan Goodrich
7 years ago
I was very lucky as a 14yr old to get a job at Stamford Hall through my sisters fiancé (John)I had to send up cokes and Fanta from the cellars up the lift to the drinks bars. Later I got to help backstage and dressing rooms and was so lucky to meet all the big names who came here. Hollies, Rockin Berries, Small Faces, The Birds(Ronnie Wood) with his white Telecaster. Gerry and the Pacemakes, the Big Three, Four Pennies the list is endless, What an exciting time.
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Anonymous
7 years ago
I remember going to see Chicory Tip there. Never should have closed it down. I was born in 1953.
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Lesleydunwell@yahoo.co.uk
5 years ago
Quoting Karen Cole:
Nee Armstrong.

I used to go to the Northern Soul nights at the Stamford Hall, Altrincham and occasionally frequented the Quadrant pub before heading for the Hardrock,Stretford where Andy Peebles would spin the discs. ! Happy times
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Lesleydunwell@yahoo.co.uk
5 years ago
Fantastic.times ,where my northen soul days began and still do.
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Chris
5 years ago
Hi everyone, it's a bit of a long shot but here goes. My dad used to play at the Stamford an most other places mentioned on here but I cannot find any details of any of the bands he was in and wondered if anyone had any of his memories too. He played for 3 different groups back in the 60/70s "Pete and the Diamonds" "Indigo" and "Climax. He tells me all the stories about playing on a line up with the Hollies. It just blows my mind hearing all his and everyone's stories. Please if anyone has any memories of him he played the lead guitar. Pictures or anything I'd love to see them or hear all an be able to share with him. Thanks to everyone.
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Christine Coker-Jones
5 years ago
Hey Chris, I knew a couple who played in a band called Climax - Pete and I think his wife was called Sylvia. I went with them when they played a few gigs at bier kellers in Manchester and Pete taught me my very first guitar chords (Travelling Light). I remember being in total awe of them and their music. I wonder if it was the same Pete? 

My name's Chris too - and my surname was Podgorski in those days. 
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Christine Coker-Jones
5 years ago
Chris, I do hope you read this and my message above, as I'd love to hear how Pete's doing these days. On reflection, I think the bier keller they played at was actually the Jungfrau in Manchester (I was only 16 or 17 and it was so long ago).  I also remember Pete adding extra switches and lights to their amps etc which were very  impressive. They lived in a flat on Westwood Avenue in Timperley, at the time.
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Christine Coker-Jones
5 years ago
Martin Sievey  I was there too! (The night they charged eleven bob to see The Walker Brothers) What a rip-off that was! They were leaning over, right into the audience, and reaching out to almost touch the hands that were reaching up to theirs. I was one of the girl fans but wasn't close enough to try to make physical contact. I believed it was a fix, that those boys knew what they were doing physically stirring the audience into a frenzy and then leaving the stage in disgust because things got too wild. I reckoned they were double booked for that night and needed an excuse to get away.   We'll never know - but I never forgave them for that, haha.  I lived in Timperley then and, like you, later moved to Gloucestershire, where I spent over 30 years before moving to France. Happy memories. 

Chris Coker-Jones (née Podgorski) (www.camping-les-chenauds.com)
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Pauline
5 years ago
Just having a few cocktails (never to old) with the younger, naturally, husband' and youttubing stuff. I am so relieved to be able to prove I didn't make up the bands I heard there. Did any of you go to the :'morgue' 'in Northwich? Before going to the Wheel, of course.
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Christine Coker-Jones (nee Pod
4 years ago
Yes - the Morgue! I'd completely forgotten about that place - I went there a few times, in the 60's, when I was 'studying' at the art college in Northwich :) 
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Pauline
5 years ago
I can't believe I've found this site!l I was reminiscing  my very early glory days with The Husband and here you are. Did you all go to the Wheel after? I'd love to know.
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Chris Coker-Jones
2 years ago
I didn't - it was always one or the other, as I was sadly on a very strict curfew. I too have a much younger partner now, having developed an allergy to wedding cake and older husbands, perhaps :)

If only we'd all known how very privileged we were then, like the very first men to walk on the moon. Those 60's sounds, moves, grooves and fashions, were out of this world. Our generation created loved and defended them and I believe we were made stronger by them.

Anyhow, I currently get my weekly fix from an internet based radio station '/www.socialmusicradio.uk', owned and run, from Stockport,  by my friend's hubby Pete Best with the support of an ever growing international band of DJs, who give their time for free. Their enthusiasm, delivery and knowledge of 60's. 70's, 80s. Northern Soul. etc music is phenomenal great to listen to and also to chat about in the stations chat room. I designed their logo so I maybe biased, but hey - take a listen yourself, and see what you think :) 
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Paul Berry
1 year ago
Hi Chris. Your name rings a bell. I used to frequent Stamford Hall and also the 77 club round 1968 to 71 before frequenting the club scene in Manchester, a lot of the ones mentioned on here. I am approaching 72 now but names I remember from then, Jane Eaton, John Tomlinson, Dave Stott, Carol Cavannagh, Andy Quantrill to name a few.
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Malc Jeffs - ex Broadheath - n
4 years ago
I discovered this site by accident whilst looking for something else. Great website – hours of fun here.
I was born and raised in Broadheath and Tuesday nights at  The Stamford Hall played a large part in my youthful upbringing. I often reminisce about those times in the early ‘60s. But first of all, a long belated thanks to Frank Bell for organising all the gigs. He was a great bloke and a giant of a man in many ways.  He took a lot of trouble organising those functions. It couldn’t have been easy – booking the hall, booking the bands, insurance, heating etc all the issues that never make the short trip across the mind of a young teenager. The only thing he did not have to organise was security – he was the security !!  But you couldn’t meet a nicer bloke. Thanks again Frank. I hope he manged to make a bob or two for himself out of it. Don’t forget, live rock and roll in the form of 4 or 5 person touring  bands was a relatively new concept – it was less than 10 years since Elvis & Little Richard had kicked the door open.
I remember all the bands mentioned above. Went to see them all even though they might not have been my particular scene – such as  Herman’s Hermits and Freddie and the Dreamers.
The Hollies played there at least twice round about early 1963 when they were just breaking through with “ Searchin’”.  As we all stood looking up to the stage, little did we know, and neither did he, that one of them would go on, via CSNY, to be a major global rock superstar of the early 1970’s.
The Kinks played there at least three times. I recall their maroon hunting jackets and white frilly shirts. My kids ( kids – they are 40 and 42 ! ) roll their eyes when I trot out yet again the tale of when I bought Dave Davies half of mild  The Malt Shovel  in the half time interval. He was nice bloke.
Steam Packet was fronted by Long John Baldry. He had done four or five numbers when he introduced a second singer. We were astonished when this bloke came out on stage  in a yellow and black striped suit with the most outrageous back-combed hairstyle. I couldn’t take my eyes off his hair – hadn’t seen anything like it before on a man! It was Rod the Mod and the rest is history. You saw him first at the Stamford Hall!
Saturday nights it was meet at 7.30 under the station clock. There would be hordes of us there all hoping  to blag admittance to some mythical party. No parties – it was jump on a 47 or 48 to Manchester and the Twisted Wheel or the Jungfrau. Saw both Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated and The Cyril Davies All-Stars at The Twisted Wheel.
Occasionally on a Thursday evening there might be a gig at Sale Locarno. Went to see Georgie Fame and the Blue Flames. We were astonished to see a band with two drummers. But after a couple of numbers the scuffers arrived, jumped onto the stage and arrested both drummers for possession of substances that they shouldn’t have had. Then we were watching a band with no drummer!
Great times.
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Yvonne Tomlinson (nee BOARDMAN
3 years ago
Also saw Stones, Kinks, Merseys, Long John Baldry, Rod Stewart, got all their autographs.  Plus saw Drifters (they sang “save the last dance for me” and pointed at me as I stood at front of stage), the Rattles (from Germany), Hollies, Big 3, Zombies, Paramounts to name a few.

Yvonne Tomlinson
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Peter Mellett
3 years ago
Peter Mellett
Hi Christine and all the other "young rockers" of the 60's70's. What great times they were. Frank Bell was a teacher when I was at Welly Road sec school. How boring would life have been without the YOR Club  at the Stamford hall. I played same bill as the Hollies there when I played lead guitar in Pete & The Diamonds. Pete Orpit, singer, drums Jim Mulligan, bass Vic Johnson and rythm John Burke later Keith Hanson replaced him. Later I did 8 months stand in lead for Indigo whilst their lead was recovering from an op. "Climax" was next with singer Harry? Bass Bob ? both from Longsight and Geoff Plumpton drums. Memorable times with six months every Wednesday night at the Bier Keller in Wood Street m/c. Yes Christine I do remember you and it's lovely to know that you still remember those days, I played all over the North West and Wales with the various groups, never pro. but semi was good enough in those days. What a great life, take care. Pete
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Chris Coker-Jones
2 years ago
Yes, I do remember those heady days Pete, when life was a shiny new technicolour adventure. I remember swanning around those venues, a couple of times, pre gig, imagining I was one of your support team, haha. It was all so thrilling for a teenager who'd normally have had to ask permission just to meet a bunch of friends for lunch in Alty - and here she was in the Big City (Manchester) drinking Babycham!  I always imagined you'd rise to even greater heights ln the industry. I'm sure you had the talent.

Thanks for being the perfect gentleman - Hey you take care too Pete.

Chris
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Martin
2 years ago
Lovely to read this stuff.
I used to go regularly. Wonderful memories.
Saw the Small Faces both with Steve Marriott and later with “raucous Rod”
Hollies again with Graham Nash and later without.
To many to mention, but oh what an introduction to those halcyon days the 60’s
Frank Bell was our games master at “Welly Road “
You couldn’t really have a better introduction to life as it unfolded into…… “the 60’s”

Martin ( formerly of Willow Bank )
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George Fearnley
2 years ago
I played drums in a Cheshire based  band   "Wee4 " in the 60s. We just loved the music of Long John Baldry, Brian Auger and Julie Druscoll aka Steampacket. We would go to watch them whenever they were in the North West. We went to see them at Stamford Hall, Altrincham on the night they introduced their new singer Rod Stewart. I remember going to a nearby pub for a half time " slash"!  and Rod the Mod was using the urinal next to me. " Great gig Man" I said or words to that effect. " Thanks Man" said Rod. No star dressing rooms for him then.
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Paul webmaster
2 years ago
Thanks for adding to the site George.  Would love to add Wee4 to the site.  Pls send any stuff you care to share to :-)
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Patricia Paterson
2 years ago
I went to the Stamford hall in the late fifties but it was for our school(Bradbury) speech night. Looks like it was great times after I moved to Scotland in 1960!
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